Episode 12

Tom Waits Podcasts

Intro music

Andy

It’s Andy’s Podcaster Podcasting Podcast - Episode 12

SFX, classical music on the radio, typing on a laptop, Andy arrives with a cup of tea.

ANDY

CUP OF TEA!

JEN

Oh! Thanks love…

ANDy

How’s it going?

JEN

Just about finished the 2nd draft!

ANDY

Great! Congratulations… you got a title yet?

Jen

Not sure… OK… what do you think of these - 

(Jen list her potential play titles)

ANDY

Hot Little Slice! The new play by Jennifer Barclay.

JEN

Hot Little Slice! yeah… maybe I’ll think about it…

ANDY

Cool, Can I read it, or is there going to be a reading soon?

JEN

Katie said maybe do something in New York, they’re opening new office space in the Empire State Building with a special conference room that could be perfect.

ANDY

Wow, great.

JEN

How’s the Podcast?

ANDY

Good, just wrapping the reviews for episode 12 - The Tom Waits Podcasts… No, Don’t pull a face, there’s some really good shows, it’s not tedious fan rambling, these are Waits fans - SO it’s a better class of fan rambling…

JEN

So says the Tom Waits fan.

ANDY

You’ll see…

JEN

… you’re not really getting a tattoo are you?

ANDY

…. errr, I’m thinking about it…

JEN

I hear it’s painful.

ANDY

I can handle it.

JEN

You have a very low pain threshold.

ANDY

What are you talking about - I lost a whole toenail on the JMT and I just wrapped a bit of duct tape around it and climbed Mount Whitney.

JEN

Ok… but… please tell me… it’s not going to be his face?

ANDY

No. Probably - But the good news is -  Hedge finally caved on giving me the number of his amazing Tattoo guy, - Davide -, so I’m giving him a call later today.

JEN

OK - But not his face! What if Sierra came home and said she wanted Tom Waits face tattooed on her leg?

ANDY

She’s seven. We wouldn’t let her. It’s probably illegal here. It’s Maryland not Florida… Look - you’ve seen the one Hedge has.

JEN

Yeah…

JEN

What is it again?

ANDY

It’s the Death Star from Star Wars.

JEN

Right…

ANDY

What?

JEN

Well… Penny got a good look at it at that pool party last month…

ANDY

What’s that supposed to mean?

JEN

Nothing. She just found it funny… You know… 

ANDY

…No I don’t know…

JEN

I think you should probably look at it a bit closer… and just really think about it before you commit to anything.

ANDY

You just don’t like Star Wars…

JEN

Hey! I love all the Space Space with the aliens and the explosions and the pointy ears and the magic swords.

ANDY

They are called Light Sabres… OK, I’ll catch you later. I’m going to the gym before I pick up Blaise.

JEN

Well done!

ANDY

Thanks… Well done again on the new draft! May the Force be with you!

JEN

Yeah. Nanoo nanooo

SFX 1212 Laughter

Andy

Welcome to my show… Thanks for the feedback about the Syria episode, I’ve gone ahead and published the transcript of the show with hyperlinks to various articles and supporting info. So if there’s anything you want to check out or google further that is the place to start. You can find it under the Transcripts tab on the show’s webpage. I will, eventually, get a transcript up for every episode. I’ve been reading that it’s sort of a recommended Podcast practice, since it will allow the search engines to find the show better in the future. Anyway, the next few shows should be much less heavy, in subject and seriousness. Ok, what else was there… there was a very funny Podcasting sketch on Saturday Night Live at the weekend, I’ll put a link to it in the show notes, and in the transcript. 

Today I’m reviewing some of the Tom Waits fan podcasts that are out there. I’m a Tom Waits fan, he’s an original, a true artist and he has a real body of original and brilliant work behind him that every one of you I’m sure is aware of to some degree. The term National Treasure is sometimes bandied around about people and I think with Waits he’s rightly in that bracket. I think I first fell in love with Swordfishtrobones and Rain Dogs in college when I was fishing around for stuff sort of inspired by Trout Mask Replica and it’s certainly that and at this point so so much more. It’s music that transports you into a different world, screams of raw emotion, maudlin romantic hopeless love songs,  early period beatnik alcoholic ecstasies and blues that becomes more unique and spare and tender at times, but interspaced with surreal explosions of wonderful ear bending madness that seeks to rip the veil from our eyes hypnotized by the day to day... How can you summarize the brilliance of Bone Machine and Mule Variations… I passed him on the street one time, when I lived in San Diego. It was on the main strip in Ocean Beach,  outside the burger place - HoDads - so named after a piece of surfer slang for a surfer who does more posing with a surf board than actual surfing. Anyway - He was walking toward the ocean and I did that annoying double take thing, that probably drives famous people crazy - you know, as your brain runs through the - ‘Hey I know you - oh yes, I  do know you but not at all personally…’ So, I was doing this- he braced himself for an interaction with a FAN - but I’m not usually that kind of person, I would never force myself on someone demanding an autograph and a selfie -  so I just sort of nodded. And he just scowled at me and carried on. It must be exhausting, being famous - having people, with expectations, who want to shake your hand and probably repeat your lyrics in your face all the time. Tell him how KOMMIENEZUSPADT changed their life and made them quit dental school… How they’ve named their Cat - Rain Dog… how Franks Wild Years kept them sane on a five year bit in San Quinten for being black in public… So that was that and I walked on and I got to the end of the block but then I thought, ‘hey - there was no reason for him to scowl at me, I haven’t done anything wrong except appreciate his insane fucking music. It’s not like I was bellowing The Eyeball Kid in his face…’ and I don’t know what came over me but I turned and ran back down the street… it was a bit busy, I had to push past a few tourists buying incense and ty dyed t-shirts and those weird puffer fish ornaments… and as I was running I started shouting the lyrics to Cemetery Polka… ‘UNCLE VERNON - UNCLE VERNON - INDEPENDENT AS A HOG ON ICE… it was as if I was running after my UNCLE VERNON…’. OB - Ocean Beach is kind of the hippie beach, sort of San Diego’s - Height Ashbury, so some people were looking at me but it wasn’t too weird for the area exactly. And I was thinking - scowl at me eh, I may as well earn that scowl… I’ll give you a reason to scowl… and I got back down to the corner, right by the beach but he’d disappeared. I walked about a bit and then I found him, he gone into the South Beach Bar and Grill. It’s Big, semi-fancy restaurant. Sort of fancy for OB anyway. Glass front looking out of the sea and pier.  And I went up to the window window and there he was. Tom Waits. The man himself. In a shabby black suit and busted old fedora. And he was being surrounded by this big group of people, all shaking his hand and patting him on the back… there were a couple sailors in sailor suits, and three dwarves, and a blind guy with an accordion, a circus contortionist lady in a cream lycra bodysuit and there was about a dozen hobos straight out of a Steinbeck novel. I thought there were all these fishing rods lined up against the bar but it was actually the hobo’s bindle sticks. There were mean looking drunks and glamorous women looking to get away from the mean drunks and there were Asian women in question stereotypical ethnic dress… There was even a Steam Train sitting at the bar. Totally nonchalant, little puff of smoke blowing out of it’s engine stack. It was incredible… And I stood there staring at them for a few minutes just mesmerized but I slowly realized that I was intruding so I crept away. But at least that’s how I know where he gets all his ideas from…

SFX - Radio Scroll - Tom Waits Butcher’s Blend Dog Food Commercial - Don Van Vilet (Cpt Beefheart) Interview Co De Kloet 7/23 1993 - CLIP FROM - TRUMP NAZI RALLY HATE SPEACH AGAINST AMERICAN CONGRESSWOMAN ILHAN OMAR

ANDY

President Bone Spurs, taking time out from his busy golf schedule to hold another Nazi rally

Music - Rise of the Black Centipede - Mario Rom’s Interzone

ANDY

It’s…Review…Time…Mwhahahahahahaha

ANDY

First up is With Confetti in Our Hair - a podcast that celebrates the life, art and music of Tom Waits. This one is made by two guys in Tennessee, James Abee and Bill Smith and they have been Waits fans for a good long time. They are part of that rare breed of fan to have actually been lucky enough to have seen Tom live… you know he really just hasn’t toured that much, so theres not been much opportunity to catch a live show -  particularly for people my age and younger. I remember looking at the tour schedule for Bad As Me from 2011, like twenty or so dates that looked almost randomly arranged or maybe actually arranged to avoid crowds. So yeah, one of the hosts - James even attended Franks Wild Years at Steppenwolf in Chicago in ’86, and sat a few seats in front of Bob Dylan in the audience. And the other host Bill has also performed all over as a magician and has even done a magic trick for Tom as well as finding himself at Ron Wood’s 50 birthday party and performing for Keith Richards. You can here about that on the episode where they talk about Tom and Keiths long collaboration history. Ok this show is great. It’s a lot of fun, these guys are huge fans and they are trying to produce funny and entertaining audio. Episodes are grouped around albums, or themes and they actually play a lot of Tom Waits in the show which is very nice, because you hear them enthusing about a lyric or an image or a moment from a song and you’ll immediately want to go and fire up the track but these guys will often just put it right in there. Which is wonderful, and also brave considering  our litigious culture and Tom’s actual history of suing people - I mean he’s probably made more money from suing Frito Lays and Levis than his entire musical back catalog. But it’s very obvious they are playing the music in a very respectful and loving way and they regularly tell you to go buy the music, so, is it any worse than streaming the songs on Spotify or Youtube? They are making a shrine and sharing their appreciations and passions. It’s not like they are selling bootleg albums. One of the feature I’ve particularly enjoyed from the show is a bit they do called ‘The Human Guinea Pig’ where they bring on their friend Brad - a professional singer - who’s worked in Nashville - and he’s a big Barry Manilow fan and they get him to listen to Tom Waits albums to try and turn him on to the music. And the results are pretty funny pretty as you hear him grumble - ‘ Well, he seems to be obsessed with trains dwarves and blind people’ and question wether or not he actually has any fans at all - because ‘Not only did he make a track like Underground BUT he put it at the start of the Album!’ Pretty fascinating hearing someone coming cold to Tom Waits from Nashville - where straight laced Bro-country mass appeal rules - and trying to comprehend the borderline insanity of Waits barking genius. And when you hear him slowly clicking with a few tracks after a few albums and he’s surprised to say things like - ‘He does more in a few words than most songwriters can do in a full song’ You can’t help but feel happy along with the hosts that the experiment is going well. So… With Confetti In Our Hair - check out this show - it’s funny and interesting and they play a lot of Tom Waits so it’s great for people who are new to the music, you can enthuse directly along with the songs as they talk about them. It gets 5- stars - 2 thumbs up - and a Magic Cow 

SFX - MAGIC COW

Andy

And… A JOKE OF MY OWN INVENTION…

Dr. John, Tom Waits, Captain Beefheart walk into a bar…

SFX - Bar, Growling from the growlers

It’s a beautiful prohibition themed bar in a newly gentrified area of downtown DC…

SFX - Growling from Tom, Cpt & Dr John

The Bartender says - What’ll it be chaps? 

SFX - More Growling mumble chatter

Ok, so I got a Sazerac and a Gimlet and a Neon Meat Dream of an Octofish… 

SFX - Drum stab

Oh and a PBR and shot for Chester Burnett who has to stay outside on the Black Patio. Sorry about that, Sometimes I think the owners have taken this Prohibition theme a bit far…

SFX - laughter to crying

ANDY

Next up up is Song by Song… from Martin Zaltz Austwick and Sam Pay. These are a couple of English lads who are undertaking to review every song by Tom Waits in chronological order. Yes - another show on a quest! Nice. So The average episode is about 15 minutes long so it’s a relatively quick hit and it is a well produced discussion and dissection of the work. You can eat an elephant if you take small bites and in breaking up the catalogue like this they are able to really get deep into things like individual chord progressions and pick out one choice quote or story or highlight a particular collaborator, without being overwhelmed by the sheer mass of fascinating Tom Waits Ethemera that is out there. It’s a great idea, it gives them another little stab of music to keep the listener entertained and it allows them to get detailed but also pull back and talk about what sparks for them in other songs, and one of their features is to pair the song under discussion with another song, by theme or feeling, tempo, or blatant personal free association… So lets see, for example of some of their pairings are really interesting - they do Swordfishtrombones with Dylan’s A Hard Rain’s gonna fall, and The Earth Died Screaming with Tommy the Cat from Primus and what was the one - oh yeah - The Piano has Been Drinking with comedian Les Dawson - yeah Les Dawson, classic English old school comedian from the Northern Working Mens club circuit… yeah - so if you want to know how they those fit together - listen to the show - OK with Les Dawson it’s something to do with artfully playing the wrong note. And Actually, It’s a great call. I think if I’d run down that rabbit hole I’d be boring everyone with a  Pilc Moutin Hoenig Blue Note session - ‘No listen it’s not just the notes they don’t play - it’s the wrong notes they play and also the wrong notes they don’t play’!

Anyway, it’s good listening to these lads and they bring on some interesting guests from time to time to keep it fresh. What’s that saying… Brevity is the goal of wit… no wait -  Brevity is the soul-brother of Wittgenstein? Something like that. And this show is sweet and tidy bite sized chunks of an otherwise potentially overwhelming feast of musical elephant. And it’s no surprise they’ve won an award - the Best Review Show of 2017 at the British Podcast  Awards. They are just finished The Black Rider there season 15  — and I’m so I’m excited for them to get to the Magnus Opus - Mule Variations - and hopefully they’ll do it before Brexit has reduced the UK into a feral wasteland where everyone has to raid the bins at the back of Aldi to fight over the last dented can of Boquerones from Portugal…. Song By Song gets - 5 stars, 2 thumbs up and a Norwegian Choir, and all the marbles.

SFX - HELLS BLUES CHOIR - GOD’S AWAY ON BUSINESS, all the marbles

ANDY

Next up is Down In the Hole - And… it’s another couple of English Lads - talking about Tom Waits. I don’t know - I guess there must be something in the water. Honestly, if I’d stayed in England I might have succumbed to Zeitgeist too- probably with my old pal Nick Treadwell in Birmingham, I remember we really got into Alice and Blood Money together when they came out. So - Down in the Hole - is a podcast from from Tom Qwee and Sam Whiles - they discuss Tom’s music, by taking it album by album with a tonne more quotes from interviews and biographies than Confetti and Song by Song. And when they get into the tracks they have a sort of Juke box jury take on it as they work there way through the albums. It’s fun listening and they’ve put together a great Spotify mix of their picks from each album which you can find on their show page. It’s one of the best Tom Waits mixes out there I think, probably second only to the one Tom Waits made himself on the rerelease of the back catalog a couple of years ago. Having been in Tom waits podcast world now for a couple of weeks I realize I know a lot of the songs and it’s great discovering by listening to Tom and Sam that I’m not alone in wondering what happened to the second half of Blood Money and also how is it that Nighthawks At the Diner can sound like a terrible dated comedy record but also still be utterly brilliant. If you listen to the show, you’ll find out about the 3 main archetypes that characters Waits career and for fans of the music you will discover a lot you don’t know and find a greater appreciation for the canon. Now because they originally tied themselves to discussing the albums I was worried that they  might have to wrap up the show once they’ve covered them so about 25 odd episodes if you count compilations and soundtracks but they are morphing into Confetti territory - and it looks like they have begun discussing Tom Waits around and beyond the albums - in fact they just dropped an episode in which the interview Brian Mantia the drummer from Bone Machine and Mule Variations. So this is great for the hardcore Tom Waits fan, to know this Podcast has a promising future ahead of it.

So - Down in the hole - five stars - two thumbs up. Some Cats saying hey and a train full of romantic beatnik hobos.

SFX - cats saying ‘hey’, nostalgic train noise.

ANDY

Next up is Scene by Scene - Now this one is pretty weird — it’s a review of every appearance of Tom Waits on film or television including his appearances on Letterman and other bits and pieces you can find on Youtube. It’s made by a guy called Vladislav Surkov a Russian living in Florida. It’s a bizarre listen, but also kind of compelling. At times it sounds a bit like someones making him record the show and it’s kind of uncomfortable with him sighing a lot and muttering. He is obsessed with Tom Waits performance as Renfield in Francis Ford Coppola’s  Dracula in the early 90’s and a lot of his reviews do kind of descend into a negative comparison to what he did in this role. It’s an interesting point of view, arguable perhaps that Renfield might indeed be the pinnacle of his acting career . I’d have to say his role as the prospector in the Coen Brothers Western Compendium piece is the best for me -   ‘Mr Pocket’ but he hasn’t got around to reviewing this yet so we’ll have to wait and see.— Episodes vary from a couple of minutes to twenty or so and it’s pretty scattergun - sometimes, long labored plot descriptions before short and dismissive evaluations often like I say in comparison to the Renfield role. He also oddly treats the Letterman interviews like they are film roles, as if Tom is purely playing a scripted character. Which is an interesting take - I mean sure - it’s show business, there is going to be a certain playing up to your role as artist but I think I think it’s clear he’s being ‘himself’. But maybe I’m, wrong, what do I know? It’s mind blowing really - like maybe he thinks Tom Waits is a construct an embedded character creation like an Andy Kauffman performance spanning 60 years. And maybe he’s right, I’ve never met him. Maybe Tom Waits exists in our minds like Peter Pan and is just as real, an invention by a skilled performer. I do think - as the the shows title Scene by Scene gives away - he is kind of trying to copy Song by Song he doesn’t have erm how can I say this - technical skills, or engaging analytical ability -  to produce a show as solid as Song by Song. Oh and he’s also made a massive error in a bunch of the episodes - in that he’s confused the actor Ron Perlman with Tom Waits because he reviews ‘Tom’s performance as HellBoy’. He quite likes Hellboy as well, thinks he’s recapturing some of the emotional promise of Renfield… but come on Dude, I can see there’s a certain oblong simian look to Ron and Tom and I can see how you might make that mistake but come on - it would take you 3 seconds to go online and check it out. Bizarre but that’s podcasting, it’s cheap and everyones doing it. And that’s part of the magic and it’s why I’m on this quest to review every podcast in existence… So Scene by Scene, one man’s half whispered and half-baked review of Tom Waits acting career gets 1 star, honestly dude, the Hellboy thing, you’re lucky you get that,  2 thumbs up because I’m nice… and a call to google and not to disappoint, a Renfield.

SFX - JUST GO TO I.M.D.B. YOU DAMN FOOL, Dracula Clip.

Music out - Rise of the Black Centipede by Mario Rom’s Interzone

SFX time check, Skype calling dial tone

Andy

Calling the tattoo guy, Davide Tattoine, kind of exciting…

DAVIDE

TATTOOINE

Andy

Errr hello. Is that Davide?

Davide

Yes. TATTOOINE. What’s happening man? You want Inking?

ANDY

Inking… ha, sure, you could say I’m th-inking about it…

DAVIDE

Why are we talking?

ANDY

What?

DAVIDE

How did you get my number?

ANDy

You did my friend last year at Coachella…

DAVIDE

Oh Man… I do not remember a lot of that… weekend… I think it was the Friday line up… sucked me into a depressing time tunnel. John Michel Jarre, Soulwax, Jamiroquai… such a bummer. The early 90’s was not good for Tattooine at all…

ANDY

But then you got that Beyonce gig on Saturday right?

DAVIDE

No… missed it… I was wasted. Just… Massively Dehydrated. I spent like sixteen hours straight doing a full-back Ewok and Wookie fantasia on this dude who I thought was EMINEM - but it turned out to be just some other - regular - rat faced dude… I came out of the TENT and like - everyone was gone… that wasn’t your friend was it?

ANDY

No. He doesn’t have a rat face.

DAVIDE

OK… Good… So what were you thinking?

ANDY

I’m thinking about a Tom Waits Tattoo…

DAVIDE

Tom Waits?

DAVIDE

Erm… I’m checking the Wookiepedia… and I’m not finding a Tom Waits… was he in Clone Wars?

ANDY

No…

DAVIDE

A storm trooper in a blooper real?

ANDY

No… he’s Tom Waits…

DAVIDe

He’s not on STAR WARS IMDB either… which film was he in?

ANDY

He is an actor, yeah. On the side. He was in Down By Law - Jim Jarmusch… and he just did that Coen Brothers Western comedy thing on Netflix…

DAVIDE

WHICH STAR WARS?

ANDY

Oh. I don’t think he’s in Star Wars.

DAVIDE

WHY ARE WE EVEN TALKING?

ANDY

I just want a tattoo. I was told you were the best.

DAVIDE

Have you seen my INSTAGRAM? 

ANDY

Errr no… sorry.

DAVIDE

Three Million Followers. And I don’t even post. Barely… once, twice a day. tops.

ANDY

Congrats.

DAVIDE

They call me the Banksy of Tattoos. Not my words. ‘Tattoo Lifestyle Magazine 2008’.

ANDY

Total respect.

DAVIDE

‘INK YODA’, that’s another one. The Guardian.

ANDY

Amazing.

DAVIDE

I have it on good authority, that if Mark Hamill was to get a tattoo, tomorrow, he would only get one from me…

ANDY

Exactly. Right… And he’s THE LAST JEDI. Of course he would… And just like him… I want the best. And that’s clearly you…

DAVIDE

Preach… (sigh) OK, OK I’m looking now. Tom Waits… Singer. Way down in the Hole - the wire theme song. That was good I suppose. He’s the Monkey looking Hobo dude?

ANDY

Yeah, that’s him.

DAVIDE

OK, I’ll cut you a break… I’m starting to do a few mash-ups. Can’t be too predictable… Got to keep it fresh. How about I do… I’m thinking… Empire Strikes Back… a Planet Hoth battle scene. A giant Tom Waits head on an ATAT walker… firing cocks out of his eyes at C3PO - who is doing his camp, gay butler, running away thing?

ANDY

Errm… sorry. no… Not sold on that one.

DAVIDE

OK OK, meet me half way… What about. Revenge of the Jedi scene. A Tom Waits slave girl in front of Jabba with a really big rack….

ANDY

No. How about this… Tom Waits with a lightsaber only we can’t see the lightsaber because he’s left it inside his piano?

DAVIDE

Boring. What about… this is it. I’ve got it… Phantom Menace… Darth Maul in the space bar showing off his bicep tattoo of Tom Waits face to Guido and Sy Snootles who are rolling all three eyes because they really aren’t impressed.

ANDY

That’s a bit too obscure.

DAVIDE

WRONG. Can’t be too obscure for true fans. Everyone loves to see day to day mundane stuff done by minor characters, it’s VERY NOW. I just did a Full Back - Bobba Fet on the toilet, reading the Diary of Anne Frank with the shadow of Jar Jar hovering over the wall above him. Two hundred thousand retweets in twenty seven minutes. It even got a like from the Holocaust museum.

ANDY

That’s… I’m not even sure. What that is… look… How about just keeping it simple, Tom Waits face reflected in the mirror of a shiny spaceship?

DAVIDE

Boring. OK… Last Jedi… Ghost Yoda taking a piss on Tom Waits who is dead in the gutter. And Yoda is saying, ‘the force is strong with this one’?

ANDY

I think it’s getting worse.

DAVIDE

You’re right. OK OK… I got it… Revenge of the Jedi. Battle of Endor scene. How about an AT-ST walker…

ANDY

That’s the chicken looking walking tank…

DAVIDE

Yeah. An AT-ST - with a big Tom Waits head… Shooting cocks out of his eyes at a group of Ewoks who are forming a flag pile like the Iwo Jima marines.

ANDY

What’s with the cocks man? You’ve suggested that twice.

DAVIDE

Brilliant yes?

ANDy

I think I’d like it better on Mark Hamill.

DAVIDE

Do you think he’d go for it?

ANDY

Sure. I mean… an idea that good deserves the right canvas. You wouldn’t paint the Sistine Chapel on the coal shed… 

DAVIDe

Yeah. It would be a waste. I mean, you’re a nobody right? No offense.

ANDY

None taken.

DAVIDe

OK. OK… We’ll work it out the details when we get to it. We have time… I can have you in… (SFX - pages flipping) how about September… 2021. It’s the best i can do. Unless something opens up at Cannes or maybe Ibiza next summer.

ANDY

Sure. Put me down for September 2021.

DAVIDE

Cool. OK. I’ll have Weequay call you back in a few minutes to get your credit card details.

ANDY

How much are we talking?

DAVIDE

Oh, 20-30k. Full Back. Depends on the color and detailing on the cocks.

ANDY

…Great.

DAVIDE

May the force be with you.

SFX - phone hang up. 

ANDY

Ok, I think I can safely say I’m not getting a tattoo. Jen will be pleased. Can you imagine that - honey I just spent the kids college fund on a full back tattoo… Anyway,  That’s a wrap. 

Music - Everything is Permitted by Mario Rom’s Interzone.

Andy

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